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>>> i'm jim cramer and welcome to my world. >> you need to get in the game. >> firms have been going out of business and he's nuts. they're nuts. they know nothing! >> i always like to say there's a bull market somewhere. >> "mad money." you can't afford to miss it. >>> hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramirica. my job is not just to entertain you. i'm going to do some teaching tonight. so call me. earnings season. i dread earnings season. why? it's so many companies reporting at once, so much information being thrown at you, hard to know what's better than expected. what the real benchmark that must be beaten is. it's because i have a really bad back. i can't stand carrying all those printed out versions of the conference calls as i schlep from downtown manhattan where i do squawk on the street and work at the street to my studio where i do "mad money." but tonight i want to do something different. i got to help you this earnings season. i want to offer you a new way to use earnings season. day traders hijack a lot of the thinking. you're not trying to game
an apple halo after apple reported a despised number last night. someone@twitter @jim cramer asked if it is time to buy sirrus logic? i wanted to wring the guy's neck. the time to buy apple was 235 points ago. and this is what apple has in the pipe. we dent hear it from apple last night. they never mentioned apple's name. part of the deal. tomorrow we hear from allergan. it has successfully extended the botox franchise to a host of other uses. the stock is up only 4%, a poor performer this year. bladder and migraine drugs i think will have a huge 2013. and ford on tuesday, the earnings have been so bad. we heard about a big restructuring from ford yesterday. taking up the costs in europe, very immediate. and greeted positively. i think it's necessary. for every step that ford takes here, it takes one step backward in europe and a half step back in latin america. the down side quantified from europe. and now the down side from south america. and the stock, does have a chance to break out above let's say 11 over the course between here and the end of the year. sirius also reports on
@twitter @jim cramer asked if it is time to buy sirrus logic? i wanted to wring the guy's neck. the time to buy apple was 25 points ago. and this is what apple has in the pipe. we didn't hear it from apple last night. they never mentioned apple's name. part of the deal. tuesday we hear from allergan. it has successfully extended the botox franchise to a host of other uses. the stock is up only 4%, a poor performer this year. bladder and migraine drugs i think will have a huge 2013. and ford on tuesday, the earnings have been so bad. we heard about a big restructuring from ford yesterday. taking up the costs in europe, very immediate. and greeted positively. i think it's necessary. for every step that ford takes here, it takes one step backward in europe and a half step back in latin america. the down side quantified from europe. and now the down side from south america. and the stock does have a chance to break out above let's say 11 over the course between here and the end of the year. sirius also reports on tuesday. are they done now? are they going to steal it and cap the upside? will this b
is stepping up to get the job done. logan in texas. logan? >> caller: boo-yah, jim. hope all is well. >> it's all right. thank you, logan. thanks for asking. how are you? >> caller: i'm doing great. i think it was about two months i called you and i was asking about the stocks beacon roofing. ticker becn. you said you liked the stock but thought that it could get it at a lower price. since then, the stock has continued to rise and today in particular it had a spike. so i was wondering, do you think it's going to continue to rise or is it going to slump back? >> well, i'm glad that you called me on me, but i liked the stock but didn't tell you to buy it. that was a mistake. you should have been die -- buying it. i like beacon. beacon is a better trade. can it come down? i think it can come down, but this time you gotta buy it and it doesn't have to come down too much to pull the trigger. donna in texas. >> caller: oh, happy boo-yah, mr. cramer. >> same to you, donna. >> caller: western union. the bad bank announcements, how much have they affected the price drop? is there more to come and wh
at ak for more fast money.anywhere. very essential edition of "mad money" starts right now. >>> i'm jim cramer and welcome to my world. you need to get in the game! they're nuts, they're nuts! they know nothing! i always like to say there's a bull market somewhere. "mad money." you can't afford to miss it. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to cramerica. i'm just trying to save you some money. my job is not just to entertain you, fwou educate y-- but to educate you, so call me. new york city mayor mike bloomberg ran that sweet chime this morning, the opening bell to the new york stock exchange and suddenly wall street was back in business. and even though not all the markets implied -- nasdaq down. you could feel the blood flowing through the veins of the stock market after two days where its heart was stilled. it wasn't just wall street that opened for business today, though. the main street that runs clear across this country may now be open for a new kind of business. one that's pretty darned moribund for years. the business of construction. yes, mother nature dealt a vicious blow and our hear
about eaton? that company lowered expectations in part due to china. it is now up $4. someone asked jim cramer on twitter, accused me of hyping the stock by saying that i thought it would go up. and then there is peabody energy. it was recommended to buy coal stocks aggressively because of the chart. i have been and remain conservative. it could be crushed by president obama. china is the growth market for peabody. big coal company. closed $29.28. it's been a remarkable run. the weirdest rally is tech. we have seen so many disappointments in tech, we forget how much of tech goes into china. huge market. so let's just say it was enough to reverse the trend of all of those stocks. they moved higher. it was as if they reported better, not worse than expected earnings. china provided the change at the margin to make this rally happen. china, not the u.s., which everyone knows is okay, and europe is getting much worse. when you get a number that breaks the fall of a huge economy like the one we got from china i i read about in zucotti park this morning, it spells growth. that's what we got.
a.m., in the meantime, mad at 5. "mad money" with jim cramer starts right now. >>> i'm jim cramer and welcome to my world. you need to get in the game! they're nuts, they're nuts! they know nothing! i always like to say there's a bull market somewhere. "mad money." you can't afford to miss it. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. other people want to make friends. i'm just trying to save you some money. my job is not just to entertain you, fwou educate -- but to educate you, so call me. china. china. the people's republic is more important than we are. that's my conclusion after today's session where the averages rocked a bit higher. the dow gaining 136 points. the nasdaq growing 1.44%. i never want to sell the united states short, ever. hurricane sandy could impact the entire nation as federal money and private insurance starts paying off and construction comes back with a vengeance. auto and home industries are coming back with more confidence than ever. and there is real hope in the air that tomorrow's big employment report might show some nice gains.
such a hard time during this period. i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow. fugitives"... they were the heady, get-rich-quick days of the dot-com boom. >> promising internet riches was the way to get into somebody's wallet. >> narrator: among the companies that raises millions -- an online-video start-up with a famous pitchman who exudes trust. >> i'm sure you've heard of it. it's called the "internet." >> narrator: but the website is a sham. its only purpose is bilking investors of millions, and when the feds come knocking, one of the men who's allegedly running the scheme heads to sea. but first, street criminals turn to white-collar crime. >> this is the first time that i had seen people who graduated from narcotics, violence, and pimping to a million-dollar bank fraud. >> narrator: the feds say a young woman teams up with her gangster boyfriend and orchestrates a nationwide credit-card scheme. but the law closes in, and the fraud's alleged mastermind hits the road. [ tires screech ] february 2009. at the federal courthouse in sacramento, charles barksdale, a gang member turned scam artist, ple
, a man named jim eberhart posts an online ad selling his 58-foot yacht -- the infinity. allegedly, no stranger to making a sales pitch, eberhart tells prospective buyers the boat is perfect for cruising the world. when it was built, he says, there was no budget. what buyers might not know is that there's a reason money was once no object. richard ryan, supervisory special agent with the los angeles fbi, says eberhart ran a sham internet-video company that allegedly bilked investors out of millions, then fled the country. >> mr. eberhart's been a fugitive from justice. the investigation shows that he did wire money to hong kong and then, subsequently, singapore, and this could be the way that mr. eberhart has been facilitating his lifestyle as a fugitive. >> narrator: now on the run for more than a decade, eberhart seems to be thumbing his nose at authorities. he's selling the yacht under his real name. is he desperate for cash, or has he just grown bold after years as a fugitive? >> after several years, some folks tend to let their guard down. however, i'm sure mr. eberhart is con
it in a situation like this, jim. i'm happy to report there was not any indication of any calls last night that people were thinking about their own pnl or business model. trying to make a decision that was right for all of the market participants. we ended up doing that. my bias is to keep markets open but this is a pretty easy decision from our point of view in the end. it's not worth putting people in danger. it's no time to be a hero. it's silly. >> what happened where initially there was a take it would open? when we were at goldman in 1985, the issue is there's no internet or real connection. we didn't have these things. we have internet and people who say we don't even need new york city anymore. how about the out of town guys who thought this was a great chance to trump new york? >> again, we got none of that from the other venues that are located outside of manhattan. there was no talk about them staying open. it goes back to what bob said. if a couple of the major markets are closed, i think you're doing everyone else a disservice if just a few thinly traded venues which would ev
. expedia is taking it over. very good story. kaitlyn in new york. >> caller: hey, jim, go blue. do you think hurricane sandy will have an impact on con ed? >> we had a great investor relation private -- the relations guy today, pr guy. it's a good story. it's good a bad chart so people are backing away from it. i like it. let's go to bill in washington, please. bill. >> caller: hey, boo-yeah from seattle. come out of here and get out of that storm. >> i know, it would be drier in seattle. i've been thinking about that. >> caller: next time you're out here, i want to take you out for a boat ride and lunch. my ticket. >> i would love that, thank you. what's up? >> caller: my question is microsoft and what are you going to do with that damn stock. it just will not move. >> no, it's got a kind of sherwin williams feel about it. it's a paint dry stock. what timing. boy, windows -- people go in the store today and check it out. no one is going to the store in the east. microsoft is fine. it's not a great stock, not a bad stock. it needs to have an omg factor and it's got n-o-n-g, if you know
. >> booyah, jim. i was wondering about disney. >> i like that deal. i think bob did it again. they own star wars. what a franchise. people laughed when it happened. not how people laughed -- whatever. believe me, it is not going to be like laugh in. if that stock opens down as all tomorrow. buy disney. let's go to brett in texas. >> hello, thank you for taking my call. i want to send you a baylor bears booyah. >> fair enough. >> i'm a graduate student looking to get a little growth in my portfolio as i near graduati graduation. i'm looking for companies that have pulled back with the recent call and i'm curious to hear your take on its long-term process. >> i read through the under armour call. and i read it in the bathroom. i didn't know where the stock was after. the stock is getting hammered. so let's be careful. let it come in more if you want to pick it up. right now it is what i call a down stock. look for company that is aren't overseas. it turns out that home sweet home is really home sweet home the usa. "mad money" will be right back. >> coming up reading between the lines newscorp
hurricane tonight, 7:00 on cnbc. stay safe. >>> i'm jim cramer and welcome to my world. you need to get in the game. those firms are going to go out of business. he's nuts! they're nuts! they know nothing! i always like to say, there's a bull market somewhere. "mad money." you can't afford to miss it. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. other people want to make friends. i'm trying to save you money. my job isn't just to entertain, it's to educate. call me a 1-87-387-cnbc. it's the first a weather has caused a shutdown since 1985. that's when hurricane gloria stopped all trading in its tracks. which gives me a classic opportunity to talk about how things have changed since is the last shutdown because it's an incredibly illuminating way to explain how more perfect the market has become in processing information. first some background. i got hired by goldman sacks a couple of years before gloria. i was an early riser getting into work early to find out how to help my clients and finding new clients. you didn't get much in the way of information. wall str
. >> booyah, jim. i was wondering about disney. they had a deal with lucas films or something. >> i like that deal. i think bob did it again. they own star wars. what a franchise. remember, they did this with marvel. people laughed when it happened. not unlike how people laughed at them with carrey. whatever. believe me, it is not going to be like laugh in. if that stock opens down as all tomorrow. buy disney. let's go to brett in texas. brett. >> hello, thank you for taking my call. thank you for your hard work. i want to send you a baylor bears booyah. >> fair enough. >> i'm a graduate student looking to get a little growth in my portfolio as i near graduation. i've been perusing recent calls. i'm looking for companies that have pulled back with the recent call and i'm curious to hear your take on its long-term process. >> here's what happened. i said at the beginning of the show that i've been reading through conference calls. i read through the under armour call. and i read it in the bathroom. i didn't know where the stock was after. the stock is getting hammered. we're in negative m
happened i was looking at jim cramer on twitter, immediately you have to sell out. you have to sell out. whatever apple says, you have to sell apple. these two people who are out been promoted, you have to sell apple. the psychology of apple has gone from being this is an up stock to being i have to get out, it's important to recognize that has been a psychological shift on the stock. >> we'll have much more on all these stories later on in the show. meantime, damage assessments continuing all up and down the northeast seaboard. to eric fisher who is in narragansett, rhode island. eric? >> reporter: cnbc says we're just coming -- forget cnbc. weather channel, what's up. >> that's live television for you. >> forget cnbc -- i often thought that was a neglect it tiff attitude. >> meantime, let's head over to lower manhattan by the new york stock exchange with the latest on the hurricane. scott? >> this is cnbc, right? >> yes. >> you're not allowed to say that. >> reporter: things are at least improving in terms of the weather conditions. we have had had had a couple of showers and the wind
. we've got two reports. weather channel storm tracker jim cantore on the out of control gas lines in northern new jersey. and our kate kelly in new york harbor. thats go, g s ggas got to come pump some place. most of it will be by barge. jim, are you getting a '70s feeling out there? i've seen the lines. just driving up here to global headquarters. what's going on? >> reporter: well, remember back then, larry, we were talking about ands that got, what, 7 to maybe 11 or 12 miles to the gallon. so getting that gas once you got it didn't go very far. that's for sure. look behind me here. this is actually a pretty well oiled machine here, no pun intended. off in the distance see yet another tanker. they've already put 25,000 gallons in the ground and continue to pump it out tonight. lines have not gotten any shorter as you can imagine. when people find out how well this is going the lines are going to get even longer. the officers over here, they're taking the traffic and putting them in the lines so nobody has to get confused and honk horns at anybody else. then you can see here wher
. i'm carl quintanilla with melissa lee, jim cramer and david faber. a lot has gone into making this morning happen as we look at futures higher today. nyse loaded fuel trucks, run tests, had the staff sleep here overnight. it is confident in a full session here today. europe advancing as well. data from that side of the atlantic. the real story is going to be whether the markets trade normally today and how they absorb corporate news over the next 24 hours. >> the percentage of corporate news that is good versus bad is remarkable. dow stocks doing something that someone feel is a deal that worked. pbh in a deal that extends the calvin klein brand. in europe, bp reporting a good number. big cap names that did a lot of good. >> we also have kay shiller coming in with home prices at the highest level since september 2010. ford and gm beat. in terms of pent-up demand, the vibe is higher. to your point on whether trading will resume normally, i talked to traders yesterday. they said it could be dipping your toe in the water meaning volume is light in the beginning to see how things
, which leaves eaton. buy it even up here. i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow. hey, larry, what are you looking at tonight? >> thanks, jimmy. superstorm sandy is winding down, but the effects linger. i'm larry kudlow, this is a special edition of "the kudlow report." sandy, the road to recovery. >> while sandy is almost gone, she's not forgotten, as the east coast starts the healing process. >> in sandy's wake, towns destroyed. homes under water. millions without power. but today, wall street is back to business, and the pivotal election is just days away. tonight, cnbc assesses the damage and looks ahead to rebuilding. sandy, road to recovery, a special edition of "the kudlow report." >>> here's what we know two days after the killer storm called sandy hit the northeast. u.s. death toll is now at least 64. a second new york city hospital, bellevue, has been evacuated because of power and flooding issues. >> lower manhattan still a crippled zone. the markets were able to open today, but there's still flooding damage down there and also very dark streets. >> so in the metropolitan area,
al. >>> welcome to "squawk on the street." >> we go straight to jim cramer with details. >> malawi is not going to retire. the board has said, we are committed to down lolly to at least 24.14. i don't think he's going anywhere. he's going to be promoted to chief operating officer. they have to rationalize europe, rationalize asia obviously and i think this is big news because i think a lot of people felt that allen had finished job one. >> i think that the key here is promoting the mark field, he or she is saying on the concern is that the likely successor would leave and find another success. it's important also to shareholders to -- >> this is one of those where obviously mark had a tremendous reputation with what he's done in north america. the man, he's now going to be in charge of lincoln. they're talking about a tremendous decline. they're talking about this cold war between japan and china. gm had a good quarter too. gm is behind them in terms of this raushlization. obviously europe is just a disastrous report. latin america pretty good, asia had a swing. the most important
:30 on friday, our jim cramer is already seeing some signs. good evening jim. >> the stock futures are looking up. europe is good. we have very good numbers from bp and we have good insurance numbers. in our country ford 40 cents i was only looking for 30 cents. the bed spring maker, look for that stock decline. kroger spoke with the cfo this morning when i was talking with squawk on the street and it looks like they had a good month of october. take a hard look at the union pacific csx cold plays because i think that is a safer way to play coal. we talked earlier in the show about the coal chart and how they looked better than expected back to you. >> well, you thought sandy was done with. it has turned into a blizzard in west virginia. we have dispatched janell klein in snowshoe, west virginia. >> reporter: hurricane sandy has dumped two feet of wet heavy snow. 26 inches in red house, maryland with a state weigwide blizzard warning. closing schools in 39 counties and leaving more than 300 people in the dark tonight. the blizzard has closed 45 miles of a major interstate between the border of
are working. jim o'sullivan says he thinks that level is 100 tncht a month job growth. anything above that would bring down the unemployment rate. >> that's new. >> and so one way to think about this, joe, is what's happened. >> we need to lower our expectation. is austan goolsbee on today? >> he's here. >> no. the other day i didn't challenge him but he said because last month we had a really good jobs report, and he was fully just talking about the 8.1 to 7.8, pause no one would call 114 -- it was below expectations and no one would call 114,000 good but in our minds that was a really good jobs number somehow. today i think we go, today i think we go to 7.5. why are you laughing? i do. >> you know why i'm laughing. why are you acting like you don't know why i'm laughing. >> let me ask you this. do you really think it could go back to 8% today in. >> yeah, sure. >> oh, my god, there's no way. >> that's what i think, too. >> why do you think that? >> it's a weird one-off. >> it's a very volatile number. >> if it goes back to a number like 8.0, axle rolled's mustache would be shaved of
very much. >>> for more on those awfully long lines and short fuses, the weather channel's jim cantore is at a gas station in ridgefield, new jersey, just west of manhattan. hi, jim. >> reporter: hey, how you doing? this is actually coordinated pretty well. it's just a nice little thing we got going on here off of the turnpike. you can see these cars are waiting in line. what's happening, there is an officer right here pretty much telling everyone which lane to get in. and then they're coming from really the exit. this is about a half-mile long just up in here. you can see them kind of getting in line here. the wait is about an hour and a half. that's about how long people are waiting. unfortunately, we aren't allowed to walk up to them and talk to them in the cars. sunoco has asked us not to do that so we are respecting that so we can keep the live shot out through here. but guys, the scope of this problem is like this. you've got 50% of the gas stations in this area without power. that's the first thing. check them off. another 20% of them are now running out of gas. all right? check
julian and i heard at one point from former secretary of state jim baker, who worked for ronald reagan. ronald reagan came into office and baker i believe at that point was his chief of staff, he organized a meeting on foreign policy, and other items. after the meeting, ronald reagan turned to him and said, for the next 100 days of my presidency, that will be the last meeting we have on that. all we're going to focus on is the recovery and this economy. that's clearly what this president did not do. >> julian, there are people like roger altman they think no matter who is elected we'll be looking at a better economy in the next four years. you sound like you're more in that camp but i don't want to put words in your mouth. >> well, i think mitt romney is uniquely qualified to lead us through that, and i think president obama will do a better job than he's done so far, but he really hasn't had the training, i mean, and he has never been successful in getting really much accomplished, and i really believe mitt romney would be much better on that i think he's the man for this job right no
. >> and jim, what prospect is there at this point for any resolution of the fiscal cliff before year end regardless who have is in the white house? >> i don't expect it to be resolved before year end. and i think the best scenario is a temporary stay of execution. go into maybe march or something where there will have to be some big decisions made both on tax reform and entitlements. but i think there will be a ton of uncertainty heading in to 2013. >> thank you again for getting up for us. be safe on your way back. and as mentioned, we want your hurricane stories. especially if you're on wall street. maybe you remember the last type the new york stock exchange closed in 1985. world wide at cnbc.co cnbc.com, @cnbcwex, as well. and still to come, cnbc's own scott cohn is in new york as hurricane sandy is about to make the landfall. we have big dreams. one is for a clean, domestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy devel
with regard to longevity of fed programs. we had jim on today. he said we're handicapping two issues. monetary policy and the next president. i think those issues definitely impact subsequent equity and fixed income trading. >> so that's what's behind this negative performance. ed, what do you think it is? i didn't see a lot of expectations of 170,000 new jobs created. >> yeah, but there's a lot of jobs that were created. at the same time, there were a lot of jobs that were lost. everyone is just frozen, waiting to see. never before if our lifetime has a presidential election meant so much. people are just taking pause and waiting. these numbers are really an insignificant event. quite frankly, i was hoping they were going to be a little lower. we saw a tick up. not surprising we're seeing very little action in the markets. >> the reasoning right now, steve liesman s if you're going to get a jobs number and want revisions behind it for the previous month, maybe there's less of a need for quantitative easing on the margins down the road. you get a stronger dollar. that seems to be the reasreaso
to mandate testing and get the regulators involved. something we can count on next week. >> jim cramer remark this morning these 100-year storms is happening every few years. certainly there is a need for that dunk, you will come on and update us as needed? >> i will and i will be in very early tomorrow morning, so bob, if you're there happy to sit with you guys tomorrow and then we will have a very good lay of the land early tomorrow morning. >> good luck, duncan, hope it goes smoothly. best of luck. >> see you tomorrow. >> see you, guys. >> an interesting halloween morning, won't it? >> as you say, it is important for them to open on this, the last day of the month, for a variety of reasons. >> yeah the important thing is there are a lot of people who have, their p and l statement, report to their investors on a monthly base is and tomorrow is the last day of the month, some people want the opportunity, traders, to sell losers, buy winners or whatever trading strategy they want to do the final day call it window dressing on some cases, whatever you want to say and some people, too, it is ev
way about going it. jim cramer said there's so much negativity even if cook promoted these guys you'd probably see the stock trade down. >> apparently ives and forstall would not sit in the same meeting room together. >> that's an issue. >> according to a story i saw in the "new york times" this morning he had been asked to sign the original letter that tim cook signed apologizing to everybody over maps and he refused to sign it and said this was, i don't want to say a temp nest a teapot but that was jamie dimon's issue but not worth apologizing for and now he doesn't have a job so he may wish he apologized. >>> we'll get the latest reading on home prices with the ca case-shiller report out at 9:00 a.m. eastern. the house postponed the release of the consumer confidence report until thursday. >>> ford released profits, ten cents above consensus. it reported record north american results with highest ever profits in that region. >>> we continue our coverage of hurricane sandy, and its effects on the markets. the weather channel's jen carfagno joins with us the storm's latest track. j
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the chairman wants. so if we get a new chairman, they're going to -- >> we have to go with breaking news, jim. sorry. thanks for being here. what's the breaking news? >> wayne angel, man, that takes me back. a few moments ago the homeland security secretary issuing a waiver of the jones act which means additional oil tankers will have access to ports in the northeast. it's a big deal, crude is moving. our sharon epperson has reaction. sharon? >> it's all traders are buzzing about. it's a huge story for the energy markets. we've seen an immediate reaction. oil prices falling here by about $2. $85.19 was the low of the session. big drops, 2% or so, in gasoline and in heating oil as well. this certainly alleviates the bottle neck issue that is have been happening around the new york, new jersey area and this is something that is very rare for this to occur, but this situation is as dire as it is and the need for supplies in the northeast is as dire as it is. the reaction immediate in the energy markets. we've even seen crude prices down about $1 or so. but the biggest reaction definitely in the
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